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Tuesday, October 7, 2008

Sexism at work: What would you do if a male colleague asked you to get coffee?

By Karen Walrond from Work It, Mom!

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Several years ago, I was the general counsel of the Software Subsidiary of a Very Large Corporation. Most people at Software Subsidiary knew who I was, and were aware of my job title; conversely, at the time most at Very Large Corporation had no clue who I was.

One day, I was asked to participate as legal counsel for a project at Very Large Corporation. The project involved software and other technology, and since that was my forte, one of my colleagues at Very Large Corporation invited me to be a part of the team, having worked with me once before.

I arrived at the project kick-off meeting, and my colleague wasn’t there; however, 2 men who were engrossed in a private conversation were. One of them saw me enter:

"Hey, honey, could you get us some coffee? Thanks."

My first inclination was to strongly and vociferously express my intense indignation; my second was to explain (with obvious mock patience) who I was. But then, thank goodness, I decided to go with my third instinct:

"Sure," I said. "How would you like it?"

And off I went to get the coffee.

When I returned, I placed the coffee in front of the two men, and I sat down at the conference table with my own cup. Honey-Get-The-Coffee-Boy glanced at me, clearly bewildered at my presence. By then, however, my colleague had arrived, and begun the meeting.

"Thanks, everyone, for coming," began my coworker. "Before we get started, however, I think it might be a good idea for us to go around the table and introduce ourselves, give everyone your title, and what your role will be for the team."

Everyone took turns, detailing his or her name, rank and serial number. When it was time for me, I turned and fixed my gaze on Coffee Boy, and said:

"Hi. I’m Karen. I’m General Counsel for Software Subsidiary, and I’ll be providing legal guidance to this team."

The look on Coffee Boy’s face was priceless — I think he turned at least 3 shades of red. I smiled warmly at him and winked, which I think only increased his embarrassment. While he never apologized, for the rest of my career at Software Subsidiary (and later, at Very Large Corporation) he went out of his way to be helpful, and was always supportive of my ideas and opinions.

I tell you this story because as the mother of a little girl, I feel (rightly or wrongly) a certain duty to represent the best of what I believe it means to be a strong woman to my daughter as she grows up. And while some of you might disagree with how I handled Coffee Boy, to me, being a strong woman means sometimes knowing when to get up in someone’s face about something, and when a quieter approach will work. But it also means having a certain healthy sense of entitlement: it means being confident enough in yourself to know that you have every right to be where you are at that very moment. As women, sometimes we find ourselves believing the hype: buying into the opinion that maybe we don’t belong, or aren’t as good as the men, or aren’t talented enough to be invited to sit at the table. My goal is to make sure my daughter Alex never feels this way. And, as far as I’m concerned, she’s never too young to learn this lesson.

Karen Walrond is an attorney, amateur photographer, and mom, who blogs at Full Time, All the Time at Workitmom.com, an online community for working moms.
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  • PORKCHOP's Avatar
    Posted by PORKCHOP Thu Jul 3, 2008 10:53am PDT

    "...Honey..." ok.. first off... no. Your answer should have been: NO.

    I had a manager who called me "cookie" once. That's right, ONCE. When he addressed me as such I turned to him and said: DO NOT CALL ME COOKIE UNLESS YOUR EATING ME, GOT IT? He never did it again.

    Bullcrap on the "well if I say anything I'll lose my job". It's why women will NEVER be taken seriously anywhere in life.

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  • she with the little feet!!!!'s Avatar
    Posted by she with the little feet!!!! Thu Jul 3, 2008 11:19am PDT

    I have a double-whammy: I'm female in a male dominated industry, and most others with my title/experience are 15 years older than me. (No, they don't have 15 years experience on me, just age)

    That said, it depends on who it is doing the asking:

    One of our field hands? "I don't drink it, I don't make it, and I'm not getting it for you". Especially if they've not met me before and think I'm the "office bia" who exists to answer the phone and get them coffee, nothing more.

    The owner: "sure, what would you like in it?" knowing full well that he expects me to come back with two cups and to sit with him to go over a project with him as a second pair of eyes and ears. I'm not sure why, but this is his way of telling me that he wants me to work on something with him...."can you grab me a coffee?"

    And I've had your scenario play out almost to the tee, Karen. And it definitely worked to my advantage to not say "no" or get defensive. Made it obvious I'm a team player, but I know my stuff and will not be patronized either (upon the roundtable introductions).

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  • Amy Ann's Avatar
    Posted by Amy Ann Thu Jul 3, 2008 11:36am PDT

    I think that was a fabulous way to handle it! I'm very impressed because not only did it show that you are the better person but it also showed him that he was wrong in just thinking you were "coffee girl". Good on you!

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  • Chloe's Avatar
    Posted by Chloe Thu Jul 3, 2008 12:07pm PDT

    I would have stuck my hand out to shake his and said: "Hi. I’m Karen. I’m General Counsel for Software Subsidiary, and I’ll be providing legal guidance to this team."

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  • lasrgirl's Avatar
    Posted by lasrgirl Thu Jul 3, 2008 12:23pm PDT

    I think you handled it very professionally, I too work in a male dominated field, I am an estimator for a Laser cutting shop. Not only do I have a degree, I can do most of the other work in the office as well. I love it when potential clients come in & ask me if they can speak to the estimator, and oh by the way can you get me a cup of coffee while I'm waiting.

    I always get them coffee, and when I walk in with it set it in front of them and say, the estimator will be with you in a moment. I walk out get my card and my tools and come back in with a smile.

    The look on their faces is priceless.

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  • Kim C's Avatar
    Posted by Kim C Thu Jul 3, 2008 12:34pm PDT

    If someone asks me for coffee, I always get it - and I get myself one - and then I sit down at their desk and have a conversation with them. This gives me an opportunity to network with people that I might not have otherwise. I was recently promoted from assistant to the manager - my replacement HATES to get him coffee - in my opinion she is wasting a chance to get to know him!

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  • blu stone's Avatar
    Posted by blu stone Thu Jul 3, 2008 12:54pm PDT

    WOW !! Way to go Karen !! I'd have paid big money to see the look on that clueless dweebs face ! The method you used to " put him in his place " was far and away more effective than " getting in his face " ! Why ?? Because the message and effect lasted far longer than the " momentary gratification " of " ripping-him-a-new-one " ! You humbled the man, and that will stay planted in his memory, and make him think twice the next time, far longer than an a** chewing ! I know, I'm a guy, and I far and away respect ANYONE who corrects me intelligently, rather than resorting to " gutter tactics ".. Tells me more about who & what they are, far more than yelling ever does.. Hope your career's as successful as I suspect it is..

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  • Rosie's Avatar
    Posted by Rosie Thu Jul 3, 2008 6:19pm PDT

    Touche! My first instinct would have been to punch him, then tell him who I am, and then go get an extra hot cup of coffee and pour it in his lap.

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  • wengski's Avatar
    Posted by wengski Thu Jul 3, 2008 6:27pm PDT

    I loved the way you handled the situation.

    Very clever idea, it won't stop there.

    I wish you are my mother.

    Your daughter is really fortunate

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  • juni_mdizon's Avatar
    Posted by juni_mdizon Thu Jul 3, 2008 7:04pm PDT

    that's the spirit!!! you go girl!!!

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