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Sunday, November 29, 2009

Jack Welch says there's no work-life balance. What do you say?

Getty Images/Brad Barket

Getty Images/Brad Barket

In true Jack Welch fashion, the former CEO of General Electric and lauded biz guru, recently made some pretty definitive statements about work-life balance to a group of HR professionals. "There's no such thing as work-life balance," he told the Society for Human Resource Management's annual conference. If you take time off for family you risk being passed over for promotions because "you're not there in the clutch," he said.

He was, of course, referring to women. The women he knows who have reached the top corporate echelons have not deviated from a straight path to the top."We'd love to have more women moving up faster," Welch said, according to the Wall Street Journal. "But they've got to make the tough choices and know the consequences of each one." There are only work-life choices, and each choice has a consequence, Welch said.

Newsflash, Jack. We women know that every decision we make will have an effect on our career, our family, our financial way of life. Truth is we think about it all the time. It's sadly condescending to let women as a group know this, since it's true for men, too. Welch said we can have a "nice" life if we take time off to care for family at different points in our lives, and we can have "nice" careers. We just can't have the corner office.

So while Jack's third wife Suzy writes about her 10-10-10 method of making decisions--weighing how a decision will play out 10 minutes from now, 10 months, then 10 years--should one of those decisions fall in favor of family some of the time, Jack says we're out of luck for the big-time positions. He may be right. In many companies, he is certainly right. Maybe Jack didn't get the memo, but there are lots of avenues to success these days, and not just for "nice" careers, but fulfilling, successful ones. If we've learned anything these past few decades it's that even if you make the ultimate sacrifice for company and work first, which many men have done for eons, you may very well be rewarded with an untimely layoff at the height of your career. Here's your severance. Buh-bye.

The Journal interviewed one woman who made it to the CEO position of a Dutch publishing business, despite daring to take months-long rather than weeks-long maternity leaves when her children, now adults, were born. So, ladies, don't be discouraged by Jack's words. There are lots of ways to succeed at work while living and tending to life outside of it. Women are charting new paths every day.

What do you think about what Welch said? Is work-life balance an impossible goal, particularly if you are pursuing a demanding career?
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  • kk5's Avatar
    Posted by kk5 Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:56am PDT

    I love working. Honestly I found few other things to be fufilling. As the article states, years of working hard can ocassionally end up with being laid off. However years of investing in a relationship can have more or less the same result. Just because you were a good parent or spouse doesn't mean you will be appreciated. It doesn't mean your spouse won't cheat or your kids won't stop talking to you. It's a risk you take. What I think Mr. Welch is saying is that whatever decision you make, be aware that there are consequences.I am ok with him saying that. Mostly because it's true. I have very lofty career goals and have decided to wait or perhaps not have children at all. I definitely believe that a hard working Mom can out shine an average worker. The problem with the "corner office" is that Moms aren't in competition with average workers. They are up against, above average workers with the time and focus to dedicate all they have to their career. It's easy to judge people that have chosen to live differently than you have. Just because someone chooses thier career, doesn't mean they aren't happy and just because someone chooses thier family doesn't mean they are. Also...everyone talking about how terrible Jack Welch is, perhaps you should google him. Have any of you accomplished as much? Yes those who die with the biggest and best toys still die, but I bet they have a lot of fun before they go;-)

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  • kk5's Avatar
    Posted by kk5 Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:57am PDT

    Sorry for the double post!

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  • cutebanker's Avatar
    Posted by cutebanker Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:04am PDT

    striving for the corner office isn't always about money or power. sometimes it's about ambition and desire. i personally believe you can have it all, but yes it takes sacrifice. every one of us has different priorities, they are no better or worse than anothers. but i think the misconception here is that the goal of every working woman is to be rich. that's just not true. having a job and a career is just as fulfilling to women as it is to men, just as is being a parent. If men can have a balance, women can too.

    and not everyone has an option. as a single woman with no kids, what else am i to do with my time until those things occur for me? i have every right to be fulfilled in my career since a family isn't an option for me right now.

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  • julie's Avatar
    Posted by julie Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:28am PDT

    I think that he is a dated man with dated views that I hope have changed. He is correct on how large corporations view women with families. The flip side is that men can't take time off work for their families because that is "women's work".

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  • Awtwins's Avatar
    Posted by Awtwins Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:11am PDT

    I find it interesting that people think the ideas or the man is "dated" when the things he has said are still happening today. Regardless of which choice each of us make, we still make the choice... men and women alike. The thing is - kids are not always the driving force behind the "life" in work-life balance. I have friends who refuse to work weekends or cancvl vacations becasue they like to travel. They have no kids - just opt to spend their free time travelling. When the time comes to get important assignments or promotions, these are the people passed over because their dedication is not there. I also have friends with children who work early, late, and on weekends to make sure they give more than everyone else and to prove that kids are not taking their focus away from the job.

    Remember that not everything in our personal lives are tied to children and not everyone who opts to have a personal life does it because of children. There are lots of happy people out there with no kids...

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  • sunnysideup's Avatar
    Posted by sunnysideup Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:51am PDT

    I know I may be unpopular here, but Jack Welch is absolutely correct. Work and life balance does not exist it is merely an illusion we like to believe so we can feel better about having to work and take care of a family. It is still very much a "mans" world and we as women need to decide what is the most important priority, career or family? Myself, I am working full time and have a two year old and believe me there is no balance here, only a constant state of dealing/shuffling things around so I can take care of everyone, job, husband, child and dog + house - I see no balance.

    If you have aspirations to become a CEO of a corporation, or be CEO at home you need to decide, but to try and have both is an exhausting non-existant fairy tale.

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  • Science mama's Avatar
    Posted by Science mama Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:15am PDT

    I hate to say this, but the way things are right now he is absolutely right. If you want to reach the highest levels of a corporation, you have to give up everything else. This goes for men and women. Early in my career I thought becoming a CEO is what I wanted, but after seeing the life I had to give up, and also seeing how miserable these people often were, I decided on another career path that is very fulfilling to me.

    Even in Europe this is the case. Recently there was a woman who is very high in the French government who gave birth via C-section and was at a meeting at work 5 days later. There is a lot of opportunity to take long maternity leave in Europe, but those who do are not at the highest levels either.

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  • Spam I Am's Avatar
    Posted by Spam I Am Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:21am PDT

    Has anyone here ever seen "The Good Earth"?

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  • cindy's Avatar
    Posted by cindy Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:22am PDT

    If I have to choose between my son and my job, My son will win every time. I work to help support my family. I know it may make me sound like a dead beat or whatever, but I dont work for my ego or to have some big fancy career. I have goals, they may be smaller than most but that doesn't make me a poster child for non-feminists or anything. I wish I had more time and energy to focus on my family, my job robs that from me. But you gotta work too... That is the world we live in.

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  • Science mama's Avatar
    Posted by Science mama Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:26am PDT

    One thing I'd like to add is that people forget that this applies to men also. In the old days, women were expected to stay at home at take care of the kids/house, and the husband would work. If he aspired to be CEO, he would almost never see his family.

    These days dads want to be more involved, so they have to make these tough choices too. Are you willing to miss seeing your kids grow up? The men I know who made it to the top hardly knew their families.

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